So rio audio, after being bought is coming out soon with the 40GB karma (the 20 is already out.)
They seem to have kept the neat UI (which I'll check when I'm closer to buying it.
A 15 hour battery life.
It's smaller than an ipod.
It's still black.
It takes ethernet as well as usb 2.0.
It has ogg support.
And the music installation program is java, which means it runs under linux. not only that the company is supporting linux! no more booting to add songs to it. DUDE!
Now 1) it just needs to come out 2) I just need to be able to afford it.