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28 March 2006 @ 02:20 pm
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Poll #699825 Lesser of two evils

Would you rather...

not be able to walk (but still be able to stand.)
have faily constant, clinical depression.
phitotient on March 28th, 2006 07:31 pm (UTC)
Tricky question, because I think that option 1 would lead to option 2 in fairly short order, and in fact that's what I find scary about it.
Antarctica, Winter 1982: R800ivorjawa on March 28th, 2006 07:32 pm (UTC)
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.
Someone I am is waiting for my courageforgotten_aria on March 28th, 2006 07:46 pm (UTC)
It depends on the person, but I think that it's usually not that causal.

I guess for the purposes of the question, assume that 1 does not lead to 2.
Camilla Foxcfox on March 28th, 2006 10:18 pm (UTC)
Sadly, it's behind the pay-wall, and I can't find the full text anymore, but I remember this article describing the phenominon in depth:

Essentially, it's generally the case that people with disabling physical injuries (such as paralysis or limb amputation) usually recover their baseline level of happiness after a period of adjustment.
seborn on March 28th, 2006 07:52 pm (UTC)
Heck, depending on how strong this constant depression is, option 2 could in practice lead to option 1 too.
Princess Wonderbutt: footbluepapercup on March 28th, 2006 07:56 pm (UTC)
Having experienced #2, but never #1, I have to say, anything is better than #2. Even being not able to walk.

Shit, I'd become a wheelchair athlete or get a para-skiier, or...I dunno. There's folks who climb mountains on crutches! As long as I can still have sex and get out of the house, I'm good. IME, #2 makes both of those stop happening.
Deneb: irisalphacygni on March 28th, 2006 08:10 pm (UTC)
I do fear that my answer has a certain amount of "the grass is always greener" in it, but if for purposes of the question, I can assume that if #1, definitely not #2, then I really support #1.

I can try to turn it around, though, and ask, "If I were offered an absolute certain cure for depression, such that I'd never have another episode, but I'd have to never walk again, would I do it?" And that question is tougher, because I still have some faith left in the possibility of other kinds of cures someday. But I would not dismiss the idea immediately.

I'm curious what answer other people would pick for me, if such a bizarre choice were in their power. Would my loved ones rather have me depressed, or not walking? I bet they'd hate to try to answer such a question.
Someone I am is waiting for my courageforgotten_aria on March 28th, 2006 08:22 pm (UTC)
This question was actually asked formteh point of view of if you were taking medication to help you continue to walk, but it was exasperating your depression, would you stop taking the medication for walking. Of course in real life, you don't have concrete proof of what actualyl increases and descresses depression, since it's hard to measure the cause and not just observe the symptoms and there is also a bit of histeresis and all, but that's where the question came from.
Camilla Foxcfox on March 28th, 2006 09:44 pm (UTC)
I base some of my personal risk assessment on the fact that modern medicine is very good at surgery, compared to treatment for most other medical problems. It justifies the risks of biking in traffic, since exercise mitigates some of the risks that scare me more.

In Stella's case (my puppy), we seem to have implicitly chosen to accept damage to her growth and mood, over damage to her eyesight. On the other hand, we still have hope that we can find a reduced regimen that will have less impact.
Pipamama_pipa on March 29th, 2006 03:47 pm (UTC)
Since I do walk around w/ fairly constant clinical depression, I can't imagine my life without it... So I chose door number 2.
Binkbinkbink on April 1st, 2006 08:28 pm (UTC)
I have suffered Option 2 deeply enough that it led to Option 1. At one time, being able to get out of bed to go to the bathroom was the triumph of the day.
I am pretty sure that depression from not being able to walk would only be temporary, that I would accept it, find ways to make my environment work for me, and carry on.
I learned to live with being short, female, and old, unable to sit upright for more than a few minutes, unable to lift anything, or bend over, and subject to sudden crippling back spasms, and none of them have stopped me; I made allowances for my limitations, and concentrated on what I ~could~ do.
But somehow the depression won't let me accept it, adjust to having it, and then carry on. I am not even sad anymore, but I am still disabled. And even though I know it isn't true, intellectually, I still feel like I could just "snap out of it" if I were a better person. There is no guilt with a broken leg (apart from feeling stupid if it was the result of carelessness), but guilt is part of the depression. Guilt at not being more "upbeat", at not having a "positive attitude", at not being more energetic or getting things done that left undone are perpetuating the depression. Even guilt for being depressed despite my doctor telling me that mine isn't just bad brain chemistry but an appropriate and natural response to my situation.
And even though it is a false hope, I feel like I should be able to dump the depression and change my situation. I think that would be a less likely attitude toward a physical limitation. One rarely is in a situation wherein they can, by an act if will, rise from the wheelchair and walk. Though I might set out to build myself robotic legs.